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Extremely extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not explain ... my bad In respond to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I needed to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with each in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that had not been sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to speak concerning a few issues of these vans, but I I'm clearly not going to come out and claim one is much better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines after that. Let's talk regarding engine and in fact just to define that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have been around for a lengthy time.
And, you understand, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around since, you understand, around that time as well. We're not going to get back into, into the earlier stuff. Given that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more prominent and I wouldn't really advise a V6 engine.
There's a lot of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with blow to these engines, because they really did not have sufficient threading in the stimulate plug, which triggered issues.
So if you're getting anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that sort of trigger plug issues. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you need to change the entire thing.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, since I'm talking regarding troubles, it's a much more advanced engine. Overhead webcam, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is an easier design with push poles.
They're just truly respectable, resilient, solid engines. You understand, being a van, naturally, you know, doing any kind of service on them is more challenging due to the fact that you've got to eliminate that cover and get into servicing in strange methods. Points like trigger plugs last a dreadful long time, so they don't require to be changed extremely commonly.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like means back before the 2000 version year.
So, you recognize, that's still readily available. I would not recommend a diesel unless you're carrying incredibly heavy tons. Diesels need to be functioned. That's really the lower line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm simply mosting likely to say a plumbing technician and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would be a really good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have less problems in vans than they perform in the trucks. Probably since they aren't functioned so hard, but when points occur, they're really expensive to deal with. We've got a great deal of videos and information concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
So you truly require to hesitate about getting a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so healthy for function, ensure that you're suitable the engine that you're acquiring for the purpose that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will claim, Chevy is virtually limited to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once more, we're just talking regarding kind of a straight, regular freight van here. The diesel absolutely isn't the most effective option. Check out your function, your use, how much weight you're hauling which'll assist you make the decision. Mark: What concerning the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're practically equal.
One point that we have not spoken concerning here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're offered ever before from half lot to one bunch chassis and really a few of the cutaway vans are actually even a lot more long lasting, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less steering linkage involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it appears, and the Chevy's probably last a bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the guiding link is a lot less difficult, so there's much less parts and less products to put on out.
The adventure in a Ford is most likely a little a lot more vehicle like yet I do not know if you 'd in fact ever truly discovered a difference between the two. It seems like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake task. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be changed. So I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, actually terribly built. Actually, I would say that if you are also checking out something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks generally actually took a leap forward in quality around the 2000 model year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for circumstances would not last long whatsoever.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I suggest, I 'd claim they're both possibly rather much equivalent in high quality, fit and surface, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, of program we'll have better visits than the freight vans. Yet I can not state that of them stands apart to me a little more than the various other.
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